WC Map 2015

WC Map 2015
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Thursday, May 21, 2015

Return to Saguenay, Quebec

Thursday, May 21, 2015


We were both up very early this morning. It is very disappointing that Oceania is completely ignoring that magnificent fjord. People travel to Alaska, Chile, Norway and other far-flung places to cruise fjords and here we have one and O have scheduled to sneak in and out of Saguenay mostly under cover of darkness. Not to disrespect Saguenay as they have cruise tourism down to a fine art, but the fjord is the draw in my mind. There could and should have been enrichment lectures about it and it should have been a cruising feature. We arrived 2 hours later today so there were a lot more people in Horizons Lounge trying to see and enjoy it than on our first pass. We were up at 4:30am and it was already light and we were already well into the fjord. There is supposed to be a line where the waters from the fjord and the St. Lawrence mix where that is visible and which attracts a large population of beluga whales. Tonight, we’ll have sailed through there 4 times and all of them will have basically been in the dead of night. I mean as far as I know, in Canada anyway, here and Churchill are the places to come to see beluga whales and we totally ignore it. I am mystified and stunned and quite disappointed. All we can figure out is it is the Always Be Closing mentality/experience onboard Oceania. They have seriously overpriced excursions to sell in Saguenay and there is no new profit to be made by sailing the fjord as a tourist experience. Very badly done Oceania.

So, rant paused for now. We were up very early because even though we don’t dock until 10am, we wanted to see more of the fjord and this was our last best chance. We did finally see the Madonna statue that the locals keep telling us about. It is quite beautiful and very remote. It is Notre-Dame-du-Saguenay and has been there since 1881. I can’t imagine how they got it up there. We passed the Madonna statue between 6:30 and 7am. Maybe 30-50 people on this ship saw it quite by accident. The rest heard about it in town today from guides and locals and tourism people. They will have heard to look for it tonight, but we never saw it sailing out at night last time, so clearly it is not illuminated and invisible in full dark.

We had breakfast in Terrace about 7:45am. We went back up to Horizons after and stayed until after we arrived and were cleared in Saguenay. We arrived a full hour before we were docked and cleared and there were no people on the dock this time during that period like there were last time. I guess they learned their lesson. One of the bus guides today said we were the 3rd ship of the season and then corrected that we were the 1st and the 3rd. He did not hear or did not answer who was the 2nd ship. Anyway, they had stopped dancing by the time we got off but all the costumed characters were there. Clay had me get a slice of blueberry pie for me this time, because it was that good. He also had me get him a chocolate blueberry cordial candy as we left for the same reason. By the way, the pie, juice and maple taffy people are gone when you return to the port to leave, so get what you want and extras before you leave ‘cause that’s it!


Today, we planned to do the HOHO buses. We had heard good things, but after the nightmare experience at Trois-Rivieres and the less than optimal experience in Quebec City we were dubious. Saguenay is doing it right! For $20 pp you have access to 2 routes and 8 attractions. The downtown circuit takes 75 minutes if you don’t get off. The Fjord Museum circuit takes 60 minutes. They run a bus by each stop every 20 minutes or so. Some of the stops are within walking distance of one another. We never ran into a situation where you couldn’t get on a bus. You could always hear the guides. There were also guides at every stop to answer questions. I don’t know how they could have done a better job. Kudos Saguenay! We took the Downtown circuit first. Clay wanted to duplicate the photo on the front of the Currents of Saguenay. We had not seen anything like it here. We asked and were told it was the 4th stop of that circuit. Well, it was and it wasn’t. There was water in the waterway when that photo was taken and there was no water today. I warned him that in Saint John Currents had photos of Flowerpot Rocks and I believe they were over 80 miles away and O did not even run the previously advertised tour out there that day. Here at least you could get there easily for a nominal cost to be disappointed. So, we are in Saguenay but it is consolidated out of 5 or 6 earlier, smaller town and is very spread out. We are docked in La Baie. The HOHO bus today drove as I recollect from the posted sign 28 km to get to the main part of Saguenay called Chicoutimi. We got off and visited the Cathedral and walked down Racine Street to the next stop at the tourism office where I got an apron because it had tourtiere on it. We got off again at Sacre Coeur Church and the little white house that survived the flood for Clay’s photo. We decided not to get off at La Pulperie even though it was very scenic because we had done the paper mill museum in Trois-Riviere already. We came on back to the ship after sharing a protein bar for lunch. We immediately got on the other bus loop to the Fjord Museum. First it drove, as I recall again from the signs, 15 km to get out to the Bagotville Air Defense Museum. It is an active Canadian Air Force base and we saw fighter jets flying around on both visits to Saguenay. We had 8 minutes to get off and just see their collection of outdoor displayed aircraft and then the bus left for the 15 km or so ride back. We had decided that if we did a museum today, it would be the Fjord Museum. It was interesting but weird. It was $23 for the 2 of us. It has a small section of the history of the area settlers. It has a small aquarium with a small selection of marine animals from the fjord. It has a small section of insects from the region. The main attraction is a very strange multi-media experience of being on a space and time traveling vehicle to visit the fjord through time, from space and from above and from under water. It seemed like a huge waste of money for what could have been a very well done and informative 20 minute film. Oh well, maybe some people love it, but I don’t see how. I was worried it would make me motion sick but it didn’t. It was sophisticated enough to actually be a simulation. That was it for us. We could see Marina as it sat docked a 3 mile walk away. There is a nice level paved 2-way bike path along the water all the way and bike rentals or Segway tours seem to be the only tourism opportunity really missed in Saguenay.


It was awful out when we left this morning. The coldest it has been with quite literally gale force winds. I saw the TV channel displaying conditions change from wind speed to the word gale. We layered up but it took your breath away out on the dock. Inland though it was better and through the day the wind calmed down, the sun came out and I am sure it got warmer than the predicted 58F.

When we got to the ship, it was around 3:30 to 4pm. I guess it was the last run of that bus because they told a woman who wanted to stay on that she couldn’t because they were finished. So, they ran the HOHO buses from 10am to 4pm. It was a good value that they delivered. I would recommend anyone coming to Saguenay use the HOHO buses. Bring a protein bar or something because to see the most possible, you can’t sit for an hour eating lunch somewhere.

We walked back down to Boivin Fromagerie to get some more cheese curds for our refrigerator. On the way, Clay spotted a big Airedale Terrier with a man sitting on a bench in front of the chocolate & gelato place. I had to walk over. He was a cutie and very friendly. He bit Bob. Not hard, you know, just a friendly getting to know you mouthing. I got one too. The man told him, in French, to behave and you will never guess the Airedale’s name! Bobby! A French Canadian Airedale Terrier named Bobby!

Tonight at 6pm we have the formal Cruise Critic meet and greet that we got an invitation for. There are 2 couples we need to look for because we are sharing private excursions with them and need to be able to recognize them. I may be back later to add more before posting.

Back. It was very loud and crowded in Horizons tonight. Go Next was having a cocktail party too. We met both parties that we need to recognize and spent some time talking with some other Cruise Critic people from our online Roll Call.

We went up to dinner in Terrace again. It was a mixed bag. We skipped dessert so you know it wasn’t great. We don’t need to eat 3 course every night anyway. Tonight the clocks move ahead one hour and we have already had a long day. Tomorrow is a cruising day down the St. Lawrence River. Since we cruised up earlier, I don’t think there is anything for us to be on the lookout for. We didn’t notice anything going up anyway. Maybe I will finally get a nap! A girl can hope.